I think we all should drive our bikes as motorized vehicles are driven and not try to cross a street "near" an intersection but at the intersection.
It does not say but lights and reflective vests may have helped prevent this tradgic event.
It does sound like the cyclist was not following traffic law. Still leaving the scene of a crash is a crime.
Please take a League of American Bicyclists Smart Cycling Traffic Skills 101 course and urge other cyclists to do the same.
Craig Degenhardt
Friday, March 13, 2009 |
From: Martha Hardman <MH at FBDLAW dot com>
Subject: Cyclist death in Albq.
To: "Clay Davis" <cmdavis at lanl dot gov>, "Khalil Spencer" <khalil at losalamos dot com>, "Trowbridge, Tom P, NMDOT" <TomP dot Trowbridge at state dot nm dot us>, "Khalil J. Spencer" <spencerk at lanl dot gov>, bikefed at aol dot com, "Theresa Cull" <tcull at lanl dot gov>, board at bikeabq dot org, "Witter, Trina" <trina at solsurvival dot com>, andy at bikeleague dot org
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 10:07 AMRead about it in today's Journal. I would link, but it requires payment. Based on the reporting in the Journal, the cops seem to have already decided the cyclist was at fault. The APD spokesperson is quoted as saying they don't know why the driver left, but IF they catch him or her, he or she COULD be charged." Could be charged. How is that possible? The statute is pretty straightforward: if you leave the scene of an accident (in which you were involved) with injuries or fatalities, it is a fourth degree felony. There is no provision exempting drivers if they happen to hit cyclists or pedestrians. It really does seem that the police just don't give a crap if a pedestrian or cyclist is hit and killed. -----Original Message----- From: Clay Davis [mailto:cmdavis at lanl dot gov] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:04 AM To: Khalil Spencer; Diane Albert; 'Diane Albert'; 'Trowbridge, Tom P, NMDOT'; 'Khalil J. Spencer'; bikefed at aol dot com; 'Theresa Cull'; Martha Hardman; board at bikeabq dot org; 'Witter, Trina'; andy at bikeleague dot org Subject: RE: Santa Fe to add red light cameras Bad news folks, last night evidently there was a fatal hit and run vehicle vs. bike in ABQ. While we have had a good time discussing the pros and cons of red light cameras the death toll marches on. Aside a fundamental change in our culture and in ourselves we face continued challenges to our freedoms as imposed "solutions" become ever more grim. Clay At 08:47 PM 3/12/2009 -0600, Khalil Spencer wrote: >If its unconstitutional, then a court should say so. Sixth Amendment >says you have the right to face your accusers, but also applies it to a >criminal prosecution. Is there case law that expands that to a traffic >violation and an administrative process? My understanding is that >Albuquerque and other municipalities skirted that requirement. > >Who represents the 40,000 people who are killed every year on our >roads, most by traffic violators? > > > >At 07:16 PM 3/12/2009, Diane Albert wrote: >>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2187434/posts >> >> >>So Khal, you don't think it's important to be able to face your >>accuser in court? That's why these are unconstitional. >> >>Also, with the ABQ red (s)camera program, you don't contest the fine >>in a court of law, it's an administrative process, and it's toally >>stacked against any plaintiff. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Khalil [mailto:khalil at losalamos dot com] >>Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:45 PM >>To: Diane Albert; Trowbridge, Tom P, NMDOT; Khalil J. Spencer; >>bikefed at aol dot com; Theresa Cull; clay Davis; DAHome; MH at FBDLAW dot com; >>board at bikeabq dot org; Witter, Trina; andy at bikeleague dot org >>Subject: RE: Santa Fe to add red light cameras >> >> I've not heard that these have been removed anywhere on >>Constitutional grounds. What would be the grounds? >> >>Will be nice to get enough cities to do this for a while and then have >>enough data to actually assert if they work or not. >> >>Khal >> >>-----Original message----- >>From: "Diane Albert" DAlbert at peacocklaw dot com >>Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:29:53 -0700 >>To: "Trowbridge, Tom P, NMDOT" TomP dot Trowbridge at state dot nm dot us >>Subject: RE: Santa Fe to add red light cameras >> >> > I hate these things. They are unconstitutional. >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > >> > Diane E. Albert, Ph.D., J.D. >> > >> > Peacock Myers, P.C. >> > >> > 201 Third St NW, Suite 1340, >> > >> > Albuquerque, NM 87102 >> > >> > >> > >> > (http://www.PeacockLaw.com <blocked::http://www.peacocklaw.com/> ) >> > >> > voice: (505) 998-6145; fax: (505) 243-2542 >> > >> > email: DAlbert at PeacockLaw dot com >> > >> > >> > >> > NOTE -- ************************************************ >> > >> > The attorney-client privilege and/or the attorney work product >> > doctrine apply to this communication, including all attachments hereto. >> > Furthermore, this communication is confidential and intended only >> > for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient, >> > please delete this communication and notify sender. >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: Trowbridge, Tom P, NMDOT [mailto:TomP dot Trowbridge at state dot nm dot us] >> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:27 PM >> > To: Khalil J. Spencer; bikefed at aol dot com; Theresa Cull; clay Davis; >> > DAHome; MH at FBDLAW dot com; board at bikeabq dot org; Witter, Trina; Khalil >> > Spencer; Diane Albert; andy at bikeleague dot org >> > Subject: RE: Santa Fe to add red light cameras >> > >> > >> > >> > About time, in my humble opinion. I see so, so many red-light >> > runners here that hopefully this will get the violators' attention. >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Khalil J. Spencer [mailto:spencerk at lanl dot gov] >> > Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 12:58 PM >> > To: bikefed at aol dot com; Theresa Cull; clay Davis; Diane Albert; >> > spencerk at lanl dot gov; MH at FBDLAW dot com; board at bikeabq dot org; Witter, Trina; >> > Trowbridge, Tom P, NMDOT; Khalil Spencer; dalbert at peacocklaw dot com; >> > andy at bikeleague dot org >> > Subject: Santa Fe to add red light cameras >> > >> > Smile, you are on red light camera! >> > >> > http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Council-OKs-red-light >> > -came >> > ras >> > >> > Khalil J. Spencer >> > Chemistry Division, Analytical Chemistry Group Team Leader, Mass >> > Spectrometry Los Alamos National Laboratory P.O. Box 1663, MS G740 >> > Los Alamos, NM 87545 >> > 505-665-2418 >> > fax 505-665-4737 >> > spencerk at lanl dot gov >> > >> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ This inbound email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email >> > Security System. >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > >> > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom >> > they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please >> > notify the system manager. This message contains confidential >> > information and is intended only for the individual named. If you >> > are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. >> > >> > > >Khalil J. Spencer >1799 Camino Uva >Los Alamos, NM 87544 >505-661-8141 >LAB Cycling Instructor #1173 >http://www.labikes.blogspot.com > Clay M. 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